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eviloatmeal
wrote 5 years ago


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So here's attempting to compile a list with information on USB flash drives, how they work with slax, and any additional steps needed to get them working.

This list is largely relying on everyone giving some input, so if you are using or have used slax on a USB flash drive, please post some details about the flash drive and how you got it working. Thank you!

Also note that due to the un-standardized nature of flash drives and other obstacles, the list will not have a very strict layout. I will insert quotes and links as I see fit in hopes of providing the best information.



Compatible drives:

Kingston
Model: "DataTraveler" and "DataTraveler 100"
Info: http://www.kingston.com/flash/dt_chart.asp
guttaslax wrote:
Kingston 1,2,4 gb datatraveler & datatraveler 100 tested OK for me (fat32 & boot).

eviloatmeal wrote:
Tried a DataTraveler 2GB and it works, but I had a little trouble formatting / preparing the MBR with Windows. If you can, use some proper tools to set up slax (GParted and bootinst.sh is what I used).

SanDisk
Model: "Cruzer Micro"
Info: http://www.phing.com/listing/3893
See second reply in this thread for details on removing U3 before installing slax. ( #postid34415 )

Model: "Cruzer Micro Skin"
Info: http://www.sandisk.com.au/Products/Item(2576)-SDCZ4-8192-Q36-SanDisk_Cruzer_Micro_Skin_USB_Flash_Drive_8GB.aspx
Guy wrote:
Just paste boot and slax and run bootloader. Comes formatted with FAT 32.

Model: "Cruzer Pattern 8 GB"
Info: http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(2651)-SDCZ34-002G-A11-Cruzer_Pattern_2GB_Black.aspx
eviloatmeal wrote:
Follow markds' instructions for removing U3 (I selected the "All files will be lost" option in the U3 removal software) . Copy /boot and /slax to the drive and run bootinst.bat (on Windows anyway). I did not need to reformat the drive, it came as FAT32 and works very well.

Imation
Model: "Swivel Pro" (2, 4, 8 GB tested)
Info: http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Imation-4GB-SWIVEL-PRO-FLASH-DRIVE-USB-2-0-W-NECKSTRAP-USB-EXT-CABL

Model: "Ultra II SD Plus" 512MB and 2GB

Model: "Extreme Ducati" 4GB

Model: "Contour" 4GB and 8GB
Remember to disable U3

Kingmax
Model: "Ultrathin" (2 GB tested)
Info: http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/15/kingmax-unveils-worlds-smallest-usb-flash-drive/

PNY
Model: "Attaché" 4 and 8 GB
Info: http://www3.pny.com/8GB-New-Attacheacute-USB-20-Flash-Drive-P2665C53.aspx

Sony
Model: "Micro Vault Click USM4GL" 4 GB
frass says:
... it didn't work, so I did some googling and found instructions in one Fedora howto
See frass's post further down for instructions.

Verbatim
Model: "Store'N'Go USB 2GB"

Memorex
Model: "Memorex 512 MB"
Info: http://www2.shopping.com/xPO-Memorex-512MB-USB-Flash-Drive
Remember to remove U3.

Corsair
Model: "Flash Voyager 8GB"

Model: "Flash Voyager GT 16GB"

OCZ
Model: "Rally2 8GB"


Problematic drives:

Exigo
Model: "Silverblade 256mb"
Info: http://www.usbfactory.co.uk/index.php?page=exigosilverblade
See this thread for info on my trials and failures with this flash drive: http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=34250

Huawei
Model: "E160G Flash Reader" (part of 3G Modem USB)
Not working, no additional information given.
 
Kevin
wrote 5 years ago


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I've loaded slax on a lot of things, including a flash card inserted into an RCA Lyra, a camera, various USB sticks. Nothing I tried didn't work.
 
markds
wrote 5 years ago


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Sandisk U3 drives work fine (2, 4, 8, 16 GB).

http://www.phing.com/listing/3893

Just need the U3 uninstaller to remove the U3 launcher before you format and install slax.

- U3 Launchpad Removal Tool for SanDisk USB U3 devices can be downloaded
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/u3/launchpadremoval.exe
(http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1415)

- all other U3 smart drives can used universal U3 Launchpad Removel Uninstaller downloadable from U3
http://www.u3.com/uninstall/final.aspx
(http://www.u3.com/uninstall/uninstall.aspx)

NOTE: Your USB device should be plugged in, and U3 Launchpad running.

If you want to reinstall your U3, just get the U3 installer from the U3 website.
 
eviloatmeal
wrote 5 years ago


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That's great, Kevin, it would be nice to know if you had to take any additional steps on any specific devices. By that I mean other than copying /boot and /slax, then running bootinst.

The list is mainly here to document what has already been tried, to streamline the process for others. Since this is a community effort there is no big company around to tell us which products are supported and which are not. =)

Edit:

Thanks markds that's some great info!
 
markds
wrote 5 years ago


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Imation USB drives (2, 4, 8 GB tested)

http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Imation-4GB-SWIVEL-PRO-FLASH-DRIVE-USB-2-0-W-NECKSTRAP-USB-EXT-CABL

Kingmax Ultrathin USB flash drives (2 GB tested)

http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/15/kingmax-unveils-worlds-smallest-usb-flash-drive/
 
Guy
wrote 5 years ago


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SanDisk Cruzer® Micro Skin USB Flash Drive 8GB works as it is. Just paste boot and slax and run bootloader. Comes formatted with FAT 32. It has a light on the end. This is the same manufacturer, but probably a different model from those already mentioned.

http://www.sandisk.com.au/Products/Item(2576)-SDCZ4-8192-Q36-SanDisk_Cruzer_Micro_Skin_USB_Flash_Drive_8GB.aspx

Zipp 1GB also works as it is. I don't know the web page. Comes formatted with FAT 16.
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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Kevin wrote:
I've loaded slax on a lot of things, including a flash card inserted into an RCA Lyra, a camera, various USB sticks. Nothing I tried didn't work.


WOW
I thought I was the one wandering with a Casio camera and a linux distro on CF.

gslax
 
smakx
wrote 5 years ago


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I have used several versions of slax on a PNY Attache' 8GB and a Memorex 512MB flashdrive. Both worked great without issue (although I did have to remove U3 from the Memorex).
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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DFI CA64-TC MotherBoard with Intel Pentium III CopperMine CPU (Socket 370, 933 MHz)

Phoenix Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG (2002-694X-686B-6A6LJD4TC-00, 2002-Mar-26)

Nec uPD720101 USB 2.0 PCI Host Controller (VID=1033, PID=00E0)

Generic USB SD Reader based on Alcor AU6362 ChipSet (VID=058F, PID=6362)

Multi-boot diskette:
'PLoP Boot Manager v5.0.2-test2'
'KExec-Loader v2.0'
'DR-DOS v7.05.70b'+'USBASPI v2.24 (2007-Oct-16)'+'Di1000DD v2.00 (2004-May-24)'

SD Memory cards:
CoreMicro (SansDisk?) 1 GB, 20 MB/s or 133x
ProFlash Technologies 2 GB, 80x or 12 MB/s
Transcend 2 GB, 80x or 12 MB/s (in Micro-SD Adapter)
(x=150 KBytes/second)

Ref.:

http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#noinstall
'PLoP Boot Manager v5.0.2'

http://www.solemnwarning.net/kexec-loader/downloads/
'KExec-Loader v2.0'

http://www.moriy.com/dr-dos/downloads/
'DR70570B.IMG' ('DR-DOS v7.05.70b', 2008-Oct-20)

http://www.coremicro.ca/products/all.html#sdcard
CoreMicro

http://www.proflashtech.com/en/products.html#DHE:Specsheet:Id:410849
ProFlash Technologies

http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=119
Transcend

Did i forget an item which might go wrong in the USB Boot chain?...

%-b,
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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The cable?
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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Pouah! Ha! Ha! S'ti!

8-D )))
 
ozcluster
wrote 5 years ago


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Verbatim Store'N'Go USB 2GB - OK
SanDisk Ultra II SD Plus USB 512MB 2GB - OK
SanDisk Extreme Ducati USB 4GB - OK
SanDisk Contour USB 4GB 8GB - OK (disable U3 if necessary)
Corsair Flash Voyager 8GB - OK
Corsair Flash Voyager GT 16GB - OK

Huawei E160G Flash Reader (part of 3G Modem USB) - Not Working
 
Hool.de.Nord
wrote 5 years ago


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OCZ Rally2 8GB - OK

Well, "OK" is not the right word.. Slax is running lighting fast from this pendrive. ;)
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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These were not tested relatively to 'Slax' but yet this may be of interest:

http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/usb-flash-drive-comparison-part-2-fat32-vs-ntfs-vs-exfat/
 
frass
wrote 5 years ago


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PNY Attaché 4GB FAT16 Slax 6.0.7
Kingston Data Traveler 100 - 4GB FAT16 Slax 6.0.9
Sony Micro Vault Click USM4GL - 4GB FAT16 Slax 6.0.9
All recognized by BIOS as USB-HDD

The PNY was formated in WinXP with HP formating utility, copied and installed slax (bootinst.bat) and booted as usb-hdd, no problem. For the other two sticks it didn't work, so I did some googling and found instructions in one Fedora howto ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo )

fdisk /dev/sdb (my device was sda, the partition - sda1)

Command (m for help): d
Selected partition 1

Command (m for help): n
Command action
e extended
p primary partition (1-4)
p
Partition number (1-4): 1
First cylinder (1-960, default 1):
Using default value 1
Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-960, default 960): (960 for 8GB I guess, mine was 487)
Using default value 960

Command (m for help): t
Selected partition 1
Hex code (type L to list codes): 6
Changed system type of partition 1 to 6 (FAT16)

Command (m for help): a
Partition number (1-4): 1

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.

WARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x
partitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional
information.
Syncing disks.

umount /dev/sdb1
mkdosfs -F 16 -n usbdisk /dev/sdb1

Then just mount the usb stick, copy boot/ and slax/ directories, navigate to the boot directory and type sh bootinstall.sh
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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So, if i understood correctly this had to be used:

PNY Attaché 4GB FAT16 Type 0x06 (BigDOS)

Am i reading you right?
 
Guy
wrote 5 years ago


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Anyone who has a USB drive which does not work with Slax, could try the following.

Download the Gparted Live CD here.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Delete the existing partition and create a new one. Then reformat the drive. Does it work then?

Maybe the reason certain drives do not work is because of the way they are partitioned.

Maybe if they are repartitioned, they will work.

Maybe all USB drives will work with Slax if they are repartitioned. Maybe there are some which won't.


People have mentioned a U3 thing. I have not had a USB drive with one, and am not familiar with it.

Can that be removed using Gparted. By deleting the partition and creating a new one, then reformatting the drive?


People trying either of these things, please post the results here, so we can all know.
 
eviloatmeal
wrote 5 years ago


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Guy wrote:
Delete the existing partition and create a new one. Then reformat the drive. Does it work then?

In many cases this is the easiest solution. I would say always try to use GParted first if you can, and if you don't have access to GParted or you can't make a live CD, try using the Windows tool. But this Windows formatting tool seems to do a very bad job of formatting.

Guy wrote:
Can [U3] be removed using Gparted. By deleting the partition and creating a new one, then reformatting the drive?

I don't think so. markds writes earlier in the thread about U3, and he seems to imply that it will still be there even after formatting the drive.

Personally I used the uninstall tools he linked and after doing this I did not even need to format the drive before installing Slax.
 
captain_picard
wrote 5 years ago


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This is what markds said:
Just need the U3 uninstaller to remove the U3 launcher before you format and install slax.which means if you get the uninstaller, then U3 won't be there :)
 
Guy
wrote 5 years ago


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Deleting the partition and creating a new one should get a different result than just reformatting.
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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I feel the temptation to make a personal inventory and add this:

"List of utilities known to work (or not work) with flash drives"


|_| Useful

|_| Not useful

|_| Wasted time, take a walk

|_| I don't know / I don't care

gslax
 
Guy
wrote 5 years ago


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If it is found that all USB drives can be made to work by deleting the partition and creating a new one, there is no need to have a list of which USB drives work.

If Gparted will solve this, then any other partitioning method will also.

If people say their USB drive doesn't work, this may be the solution for all of them.

This is just a theory at this stage, it may not be the case, so everyone keep posting your input.
 
Guy
wrote 5 years ago


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guttaslax wrote:
I feel the temptation to make a personal inventory and add this:

"List of utilities known to work (or not work) with flash drives"


It is a good idea.

After you have a fair amount of input, you can make a list.
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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The list is based on the assumption that the
USB FlashDrive alone is responsible for boot
failures but i think it's innacurate, to say the
least.
 
eviloatmeal
wrote 5 years ago


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Well we are working to hammer out the optimal combination of info to help everyone have a smooth Slax experience. This is just the first step in improving our knowledge.

And obviously the assumption is not that flash drives alone are responsible, but rather that some drives may be more problematic than others and may require additional steps in the installation process (for example the U3 drives).

This list is an effort to get a general picture of what works well and what works less well.

I have also begun to draft some guides / tutorials:

http://66.246.76.162/slax/wiki/U3
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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@bicephale

That's just the reason. I believe it can work or fail depending on what you do.
As I can see on the web, the problems reported here are a very little part of the whole pendrive universe. One point: flash drives have a CHS geometry, a command or utility can alter it to achieve your needs, but you lose other features, or make it unusable (remember the thread about max size). You can retrieve a lot of other "secrets"; my impression is that most info are out of date, and related to drives less than 1GB, so unapplicable now. More, some of them are contradictory.
I know we can't write a FlashPedia, and this isn't the right place, but a few info about what to not do could avoid to manage biggest problems after the fault.

gslax
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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@eviloatmeal

I also believe that external wiki, blog, whatever you want, isn't the right way to collect useful infos. This is the place, but we have no tools.
Maybe one can open a new thread, and edit the first (opening) message every time he gets a new interesting post appended to his thread.
So, an user can immediately find something useful on the top (at present this forum has 203 uncategorized pages, 20 threads each, and some of them with pages, pages, pages, and the solution is seven posts to the end).
Just my opinion.

gslax
 
wopice
wrote 5 years ago


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A-DATA myFlash 2GB works OK (tested)

http://computer-reviews.net/files/a-data%20pd2%20myflash%202gb%20portable%20flash%20drive.jpg
 
eviloatmeal
wrote 5 years ago


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guttaslax wrote:
I know we can't write a FlashPedia

Why not? Seriously? Why can't we write a Flash-pedia? That would be awesome. Obviously it would not necessarily be affiliated with Slax.

guttaslax wrote:
I also believe that external wiki, blog, whatever you want, isn't the right way to collect useful infos.

I respectfully disagree here. I think a wiki is a great addition to the slax forums, as long as it would be kept in one place, and not too much spread out.

After all, two websites is not that much considering the topic is an entire operating system, in my humble opinion. =)
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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Well, i'll try to remember i should come back here
if i get another FlashDrive to toy with. Good luck!
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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@eviloatmeal
No, you don't seem to disagree; you refer, like me, to an internal wiki, or a site related wiki, and our goal just is to not spread out knowledge. I quote myself: This is the place, but we have no tools.
About Flashpedia:
look back at a post of mine for bicephale, some of the reasons are explained there. Who can verify contradictory infos, or test the software and flash drives? Or manage problems occurred in using tips?
Should we start the site with a

BIG

disclaimer?
35 years in IT teached me every problem is also related to the single person who gets it. The web is full of funny stories, I've lived myself a lot of them. The solution if often in your hands, but the result depends on how your user applies it.
Maybe it's easier to write a cooking book (one of my dreams), but who knows, in the future...
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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What about a "Do not do" pedia?
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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Bicephale wrote:
What about a "Do not do" pedia?


In a kitchen?
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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Especially in the kitchen! Imagine if one's USB
key is dropped in a boiling bowl of pea soup!
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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You always take my words as a joke...
Or is it my mistake and your "Do not do"
means something like

-I am Slax your Operating System.
-Do not have any other Operating System before me.

And so on?
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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Simply, if it's too difficult to maintain a site
showing what works with USB FlashDrives
then my guess is it's easier to make one
which warns the potential users against
what doesn't work...
 
AJB2K3
wrote 5 years ago


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Kingston data traveller 1Gb works.
 
guttaslax
wrote 5 years ago


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Bicephale wrote:
Simply, if it's too difficult to maintain a site
showing what works with USB FlashDrives
then my guess is it's easier to make one
which warns the potential users against
what doesn't work...


I'm hard headed, so I'm testing some utilities for formatting and partitioning, and some other interesting tools.
Actually a jungle; almost every brand has it's own; more, every chicken unsatisfied of them wrote another very intelligent (or stupid) tool.
If I'll survive, I'll let you know.

gslax
 
Bicephale
wrote 5 years ago


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'PeToUSB' is my favourite so far because
of the format information it provides...
 
frass
wrote 5 years ago


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update

PNY Attaché - 4GB FAT16 and FAT32; Slax 6.0.7 and 6.0.9
Kingston Data Traveler 100 - 4GB FAT16 and FAT32; Slax 6.0.9
Sony Micro Vault Click USM4GL - 4GB FAT16 and FAT32; Slax 6.0.9
APACER AH 320 - 2GB FAT32 ; Slax 6.0.9
All recognized by BIOS as usb-HDD

The fdisk under Linux environment works 100% by now for this usb sticks above, so I'm no longer using Windows tools (guess they mess the Kingston and the Sony sticks geometry somehow. I don't know? Any suggestions?)
With fdisk I also succeeded formating and booting from an old No-name usb 512KB (with a pharmaceutical company name on it)

The algorythm is the same as described in my previous post, the differences are the last cylinder count and the HEX code of the system type - "6" for FAT16 and "b" for FAT32
 
briantol
wrote 3 years ago


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Feel like I'm joining the party a bit late but thought I might as well still add my bit as it could help people in choosing a flash drive. I thought I'd try a Delta drive as it was on offer, at first it worked fine but a few months down the line and I kept having trouble loading the data that was on it. From this I'd definitely tell people to be a bit weary when considering one of their drives.

Delta
Model: Delta 2gb
Info: http://www.promo-usb.net/promotional-usb/delta-flash-drive.html
 
BubbleBobble
wrote 2 years ago


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http://www.bespokeusb.co.uk/
 

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